Average Joe SCOTUS: Gallardo v. Marstiller

The petitioner, 13-year-old Gianinna Gallardo was riding along in her school bus, minding her own fucking business. When she got off the bus, a truck driver ran over her, causing serious injury, putting Gallardo in a coma. She remains in a vegetative state.

Since she is highly incapacitated, her suit is being managed by her parents and family members on her behalf, as she’s in no condition to go to SCOTUS, as cool as that might be.

As you can imagine, Gallardo’s family sued, and were eventually awarded $800,00 to cover past and future expenses. Pay attention to the “past and future” part of that, it’ll be rather important to the case.

Medicaid paid over $862k for the medical expenses she had incurred so far. When Medicaid was originally enacted, it had no provisions to recover money it had paid for healthcare costs. Once your bills were paid, they were paid.

But, in the sixties, one exception was written in that if the person whose bills were paid wins a lawsuit related to those expenses against a third party who caused the injuries, in this case the truck driver’s employer, Medicaid can claim a basic double-dip situation, and ask for their money back, since the 3rd party is now paying instead.

Since she won $800k from the driver, Medicaid was like, “Yo, we’d like our money back, please. We’ve got bills to pay, dawg.”

As per usual, SCOTUS loves these nerdy fucking weird-ass cases, where the interesting part of the case is basically settled, but there’s some weird fucking procedural question which is ambiguous, that they think needs clarified. This is yet another one of those cases.

So in this case, the issue is that the lawsuit was for “past and future” medical expenses. But the petitioner (Gallardo, the victim) argues Medicaid is only allowed to take back money paid for past expenses, which in this case, was apparently about $35,000. Team Gallardo is saying, “Whoa, Medicaid, you don’t get all of that. A lot of it is for future expenses, and you don’t get to take any of that.”

So that’s literally all that SCOTUS gets to decide. Do they divide up the $800k based on what was awarded for past and future expenses, and only let Medicaid recover the award for the past expenses portion, or do they let Medicaid take all of it until they’re made whole. Since only about $35k of their settlement was for past expenses, Medicaid sees that $765k nugget hanging out there, and they don’t want to let that shit go.

It’s also worth nothing, that this poor kid will assuredly rack up more expenses than what Medicaid or the lawsuit has gotten her, so the idea she’s being unjustly enriched somehow, is falser than false.

Counsel Brian Gowdy for Gallardo, early on, responding to Justice Thomas’ line of questioning about what costs are recoverable by Medicaid, and are they similar to child support said this:

Well, Your Honor, the analysis would still be the same whether it’s child support or tort recovery. The analysis would be—the medical care—and I said yes when you said it’s very broad, but the medical care mentioned in the assignment clause, in our view, when read in the whole text, is shorthand for medical care covered by Medicaid, furnished by Medicaid, paid for by Medicaid, and, therefore, the analysis will be whether the third-party liability covers the same care, service, or item covered by Medicaid. And my point about distinguishing between tort recoveries and childcare is tort recovery often pays for items, care, and service not covered by Medicaid.

Brian Gowdy

For example, if you’re a disabled person, you will need a special vehicle with medical equipment to be transported to your appointments. Medicaid does not cover for that, but a tortfeasor may have to pay for that. Childcare, I think, is different in the other regard in that childcare requires the parent to pay for all medical care, whether it’s covered by Medicaid or not, and, therefore, I think it’ll operate differently in that context than in the tort recovery context.

He’s basically like, “how the fuck can Medicaid take money paid for things that Medicaid never covered, or will cover in the future? That’s not fucking fair. If she only won what Medicare paid for, which is about 35 Gs in this case, by all means, take the 35 Gs back, but these greedy motherfuckers are taking everything from this poor kid. You can’t be fucking seriously even considering this right now.”

Spoiler alert: they were.

An amici for the petitioner (Gallardo) was the federal government. They agree with Gallardo. I know this is confusing, because the Medicaid law is a federal law, but apparently, each state has their own Medicaid program, with its own money, that I’m guessing operates under the federal Medicaid law? I don’t fucking know. And I still don’t after listening to this shit. I also don’t know if Medicaid, after getting all this money, will end up paying back in the future for future expenses. But anyway, it’s Florida trying to get that money back, not the federal government who wrote the law.

Counsel Vivek Suri for the federal government gets the award for the most prepared lawyer SCOTUS has ever had walk through the door. After petitioner’s counsel Gowdy was done with his argument, Vivek came in, and literally answered pretty much every fucking question every justice asked to Gowdy, as coolly and calmly as I’ve ever heard one argue. He deserves the Rico Suave award, if one exists. Here’s his opening remarks:

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court: Our position does not turn on any distinction between past and future medical expenses.

Couldn’t find a single usable image of Solicitor General Vivek Suri on Google. I saw some that might be him, but it was hard to be sure. This guy’s a fucking ghost. So here’s an image of Rico Suave instead

It instead turns on who paid for those expenses. Medicaid is entitled to the portions of the recovery that correspond to the things Medicaid paid for, and the beneficiary gets the portions of the recovery that correspond to the things the beneficiary paid for. Justice Thomas, you asked about how this would work in the context of child support or medical support provided by a parent.

Our answer is that it would work the same way.

The same kind of allocation would have to be made. Justice Alito, you asked how this would work in the context of payments that are made after the settlement.

I agree that’s something that can happen, although it’s unusual, and in that case, as I’ve said, we draw no distinction between past and future payments.

The entitlement would turn entirely on who made the payment. Justice Kagan, you asked about the word “available” in (A).

And we agree that the word “available” can be read to mean theoretically available.

But the key language here is not in (A).

It’s in (B).

(B) is the provision that specifies the pool of funds from which the recovery can be obtained.

And that’s at the very end of (B) where it says “to the extent of such legal liability.” But, if you look earlier in (B), it says such a legal liability is found to exist after medical assistance has been made available on behalf of the individual.

And that makes clear that we’re not talking about theoretical availability.

We’re talking about actually being made available. In addition, if you look at page 7A of our brief, there’s a regulation, 42 C.F.R. 433.138, which interprets (A) itself to apply to services that are furnished and not merely available under the plan. Justice Kavanaugh, you asked about the Medicare analogy, and I don’t think that analogy really helps in this context.

That’s because Medicare adopts the system that was rejected in Ahlborn.

In other words, it’s not the case that Medicare takes the pool of money that is attributable to future medical expenses.

Rather, it takes from the entire pool of the settlement. And now — we think it’s rational for Congress to have done one of two things.

You could say you limit the — the government to the pool of money that corresponds to the funds that have actually been paid for by Medicaid, and that would be fair to the beneficiary. Alternatively, you could say that the government could take the entire settlement. That would be less fair to the beneficiary, but it avoids the administrative costs and hassle of having these allocation determinations. But what’s less understandable is why Congress would have adopted the middle ground that Florida wants, where you have the administrative expense of these allocation proceedings, but you also don’t have the fairness to the beneficiary because Medicaid is going beyond the pool that corresponds to the funds that Medicaid itself has paid for.

In many ways, it’s the worst of all worlds. Justice Gorsuch, you had asked about Section 1983 and how that would apply here. The federal government agrees that the Court shouldn’t reach that issue in this case.

Justice Neil Gorsuch

It’s a difficult issue about how Section 1983 should be interpreted.

There are also complications about whether it should be under Section 1983 or Ex parte Young.

We’d urge the Court to reserve that case — that issue for future cases. Justice Breyer, your hypothetical involved Smith and Jones and Smith getting to pay I think it was 15,000 out of the 25,000. How does Medicaid recover the remaining 10,000? I think the way to deal with that is, first, the state could go after the tortfeasor directly.

It has multiple avenues for doing that.

It’s received an assignment.

It could use that assignment to bring the suit in the first place. Second, after the suit has been brought by the private individual, the state could intervene in that case. Third, after the settlement has been reached, the state could say we’re not a party to that settlement and we still want to sue the individual for the remaining money, and in that suit, the state could ask for the full extent of its expenses. But what the state is doing here is it’s not going after the tortfeasor.

It’s going after the victim of the accident, and it’s seeking funds that don’t correspond to the things it paid for. We think that’s exactly what the anti-lien clause prevents the state from doing. If there are any other questions, I welcome them.

Clearly, Vivek was ready for this shit.

Once the petitioner and the federal government were done with their arguments, it was time for the greedy fucks from Florida to chime in. Henry Whitaker for the respondents (Florida) made it clear that basically, the program is hemorrhaging money, and so they can’t be fucking around, leaving money out there on the table:

Henry Whitaker

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court: Medicaid is an important and expensive part of the social safety net.

To help keep Medicaid solvent, Congress made Medicaid the payer of last resort, meaning that other available resources should pay medical expenses before Medicaid pays.

As part of that role, Medicaid recovers money from tortfeasors who injure Medicaid beneficiaries.

When it does so, Medicaid can never be reimbursed for more than it paid out in benefits. The question here is whether the program may seek that reimbursement from a tort settlement, not only out of medical damages or medical expenses paid in the past but also for medical expenses that will be paid in the future. Section 1396k of the statute answers that question.

It provides for Medicaid beneficiaries to assign to the program rights to payment for “medical care,” not past medical care, not some complicated subset of medical care.

Medical care, period, including payments for medical care that may be necessary in the future. That reading is confirmed by subsection (B) of Section 1396k, the remainder provision.

Medical expenses may include expenses that Medicaid paid and expenses that the beneficiary paid.

The remainder provision says that if Medicaid recovers all of those medical expenses, Medicaid is reimbursed for its expenses and the remaining amount goes to the beneficiary. But, if there isn’t enough money to reimburse both Medicaid and the beneficiary, the remainder provision says that Medicaid gets paid first.

In other words, far from prohibiting Medicaid from recovering out of all medical damages, Section 1396k gives Medicaid’s reimbursement claim priority over other claims to medical expenses. The result is neither untoward nor surprising.

Medicaid can never be reimbursed for more than it paid out in benefits. Medicaid can also never receive any non-medical damages, but because it is the payer of last resort for medical expenses, it may recover from all medical damages. I welcome the Court’s questions.

~Counsel for Florida Henry Whitaker

He made an interesting point in saying that Medicaid is not a payer of first resort, it’s the last. So if there’s anyone who’s paying for medical care for the victim, then that pay must happen first, and then once that’s exhausted, then we’ll talk about Medicaid kicking in. Since in this case, Medicaid paid first, before the tort was settled, if the Gallardo’s had won the suit first, Medicaid would never have kicked in a dime yet, since they haven’t exhausted all the money from the tort. So what they’re asking for here, is no different. It’s just a timeline issue.

In a 7:2 majority, where justice Elena Kagan joined the Republican appointees, they ruled that in order for Medicaid to remain solvent, it has the right to recover any money’s from a lawsuit the claimant recovered as a result of the lawsuit relating to their injuries until Medicaid is made whole for the money they paid out.

Whether or not those damages were to pay for things Medicaid covered or not, is irrelevant. They don’t give a fuck if this leaves the patient without enough funds to cover their medical bills into the future, the law is the law. If congress doesn’t like it, congress should change it.

Justices Sotomayor and Breyer think the other seven are being the world’s biggest assholes right meow. Basically accusing the other seven of not reading the entirety of the statutes around this in context, but instead, focusing on particular segments of the law in isolation, and coming to a conclusion they might not otherwise come to.

Average Joe SCOTUS: Biden v. Missouri

If you haven’t already read AVERAGE JOE SCOTUS: NATIONAL FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT BUSINESS V. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION, this case was related to that. So I will try not rehash too much from the OSHA case, but instead, focus on what was different about this one, as it was argued separately.

While OSHA was trying to make a sweeping rule for all workplaces in the other case, the department of Health and Human Services (HHS) here narrowly regulated that anyone who works in a facility that accepts Medicare or Medicaid (we’ll call it Eminem for fun) be vaccinated, unless they have a religious or medical exemption. Failing to do so, would cause a loss of funding from Eminem for being non-compliant.

So to be clear, it wasn’t a law forcing anyone to do anything, it was government saying that if any hospital wants paid by Eminem, it must comply with government’s rules. They were welcome to no longer accept Eminem, and not be subject to this rule.

Aside from the money issue, the elderly who were most at risk, are the people using Eminem, making it additionally important for them.

Also unlike the OSHA case, healthcare workers did not have the option to wear a mask if they chose not to vaccinate.

On a side note, if you’re curious, it’s called Biden v. Missouri because HHS operates at the behest of president Biden, and Missouri is the state that decided HHS had gone too fucking far with this shit.

I’ll go on my soapbox for a second and simply say, if someone has a degree in healthcare, and they’re still anti-vaccine, I’m going to argue that the notion that they slept, drank, or got high most of their way through college, is significantly more likely. The days of a rogue scientist being right against an overwhelming consensus of other scientists pretty much ended with the modern scientific method.

I should be clear, while I have a pretty low tolerance for healthcare workers who are anti-vaccine as a whole, I’m only referring to those who are against vaccines altogether. There are legitimate science-based reasons for a small subset of people not to get vaccinated, so I’m totally not attacking them, nor arguing they must be wrong. Those are the “medical exemption” people mentioned above.

During arguments, Justice Sotomayor apparently opted to “tag in” for the Biden administration, adding her own supporting argument that this is a power within Constitution’s spending clause, as it allows the government to impose conditions it desires, when it offers to give money to an entity.

Justice Sonya Sotomayor

Justice Kagan, also seemingly argued for petitioner’s. When counsel for Missouri argued that people might be put in a position to quit if they were opposed to the vaccine, causing a healthcare worker shortage, Kagan fired back that it’s also true that workers who already left the workplace for fear of contracting COVID might return to work if they know all their idiot antivax coworkers were fired, or sucked it up and took the fucking vaccine.

She also pointed out many people were avoiding going to the hospital for fear of contracting COVID, in part because there are idiots at the hospital who refused the fucking vaccine for their own dumb fucking reasons, instead of science-based ones.

I’m also putting religion into a dumb fucking reason, because I’ve never seen the word “vaccine” in the Bible, Quran, or any other religious book, except maybe Dianetics, but that’s not a religion, it’s a cult. So any religious exemption to vaccines is the imagination of the believer, not the word of their god as handed down by any text that I’m aware of.

Justice Gorsuch, while grasping the idea that this is a spending clause, still raised concerns this statute is still essentially telling hospitals who to fire, affecting tenure and such (which HHS is prohibited from doing), because it’s…well…I’ll let Justice Gorsuch explain in his own words:

This statute, unlike the OSHA statute, actually contains an express limitation on the Secretary’s authority that we haven’t yet discussed and that I know you’re familiar with.

Among other things, it says the Secretary shall not control the tenure of employees at covered healthcare facilities or their compensation or their selection. And this regulation, arguably, the other side will say—I’m sure we’re going to hear it, so I didn’t want you to not have a chance—is going to say this effectively controls the employment of individuals at these healthcare facilities in a way that Congress specifically prohibited. As I understand your response, it is we’re just providing money or not providing money, and by withholding money, we’re not controlling who you hire. And I might understand that in some circumstances, but in a statute where everything is about spending, it’s a Spending Clause statute, I would have thought that Congress would have understood and we should interpret this language in that light, that you cannot use the money as a weapon to control these things. And, in fact, of course, as you know, the Court has some anti-commandeering law. That’s doctrinal speak for you can’t always use money without—and claim you’re not controlling what’s going on. And I wonder whether we should take particular cognizance of that here given that these statutes sometimes constitute, we’re told, 10 percent of all the funding that state governments receive.

Justice Neil Gorsuch

This regulation affects, we’re told, 10 million healthcare workers and will cost over a billion dollars for employers to comply with. So what’s your reaction to that? Why isn’t this a regulation that effectively controls the employment and tenure of healthcare workers at hospitals, an issue Congress said the agency didn’t have the authority, that should be left to states to regulate?

Their exchange went on for a while, but essentially, counsel for HHS agreed to Gorsuch’s point somewhat, but then gave other examples where HHS set requirements as a condition to get funding such as requiring doctors to be licensed for instance, which no one has beef with. So clearly, there’s some leeway within his concern.

He argues specifically that he felt setting standards doesn’t constitute control. I mean, it kinda is, but hey. Lawyers get paid to come up with colorful arguments, and lawyers who got to argue in front of SCOTUS are the best in the biz.

After The Biden admin peeps finished their arguments, it was time for Missouri to launch their campaign. For that job, they turned to none other than Jesus himself—Jesus Osete.

Counsel Jesus Osete

In his argument, he took issue that the provision that gives HHS the power to act in the interest of the health and safety of patients, that those Biden fuckers are ignoring a lot of other shit to make their claim that it’s OK to add a vaccine mandate of this nature.

Justice Kagan, apparently not having a Jesus fish on her car, was unimpressed with counsel Osete’s argument. It seems being in a 3:6 minority is wearing on her, because she’s been rather belligerent as of late. But to be fair, anti-vax zealots are clearly annoying to me too, so I guess I can’t blame her too much. Either way, her exchange with counsel Osete turned the “testy” level all the way to eleven.

She was asking him for instance, if they can require hospitals to sterilize necessary equipment to prevent infection, which counsel Osete agreed to. So she was like, “then how the fuck is this any different, mother fucker?”

The exchange between them was long AF, so I’m not copying it here, and Justice Kagan was not exactly allowing counsel Osete to make his point anyway, by setting a Guiness World Record for interrupting a respondent. But it’s also true, that counsel Osete was acting in a manner that’s kinda like, “If you don’t like the question, answer the question you wished they’d asked, instead of what they actually asked. He was definitely in spin mode.

Justice Elena Kagan

Counsel Osete really wanted to hammer home the idea that smaller hospitals would be “devastated” by the rule HHS has adopted. Let’s be clear about what he’s saying. Small hospitals have so many anti-vaccine assholes in their midst, that such a rule, would cripple them.

I’m not sure what kind of data he’s citing to make such an astounding claim, but I’d like to believe that anti-vaccine zealots in the health care industry, are the fringe, not the norm. Although, to be fair, plenty of credible doctors were silenced for promoting the idea that natural immunity shouldn’t be ignored entirely, and if someone already contracted COVID, maybe a vaccine wasn’t completely necessary for them.

After the epic battle with Justice Kagan, Justice Kavanaugh brought up a unique question when he asked:

First, this is an unusual administrative law situation from my experience because the people who are regulated are not here complaining about the regulation, the — the hospitals and healthcare organizations.

It’s a very unusual situation. They, in fact, overwhelmingly appear to support the Secretary’s — the CMS regulation.

So I want — and the government makes something of that. What — what are we to make of that?

Justice Brett Kavanaugh

It is a valid point, that the regulation in many ways, is probably a rule the hospitals wanted to impose themselves, but figured it’d piss off their employees. So getting HHS to make the law instead lets the hospitals off the hook so they can be like, “Hey, it’s not our rule! We’re with you *wink-wink*, it’s those nasty assholes at HHS. Sorry. Here’s your shot.”

Justice Kavanaugh went on to give Counsel Osete an opportunity to ultimately explain his beef with Justice Kagan’s line of questioning.

He asked:

How is a vaccine different in kind, from your perspective, from, say, the requirement to wear gloves or the requirement to wash your hands or the other kinds of requirements? Because I think, if you acknowledge that there’s authority to require the latter, then you need to explain why the — the vaccine is different.

His response:

I don’t think I could say it any better than Chief Judge Sutton did at page 12 of his dissent in the OSHA case, which is masks can come off, gloves can come off.

A vaccine requirement, the taking a vaccine is a permanent medical procedure that cannot come off after work is over.

That is, there are — there are materially different conditions, materially different procedures at stake. And when you look at the context, for example, in the hospital requirement, 1395x(e), nothing in that statute comes close to authorizing this precise mandate in this case, which is going to have devastating consequences for vast swaths of this country, Your Honor.

He at least made a valid point as to the distinctions, even if it isn’t necessarily a distinction the law authorizing HHS to do their jobs makes.

Amici for Missouri, Elizabeth Murrill (an amici is an interested third party, which is not part of the suit, but has officially added their opinion to the case) opened her oral arguments with this:

Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court: This case is not about whether vaccines are effective, useful, or a good idea. It’s about whether this federal executive branch agency has the power to force millions of people working for or with a Medicare or Medicaid provider to undergo an invasive, irrevocable, forced medical treatment, a COVID shot.

It’s a bureaucratic power move that is unprecedented. If it can do that, the question still remains as to whether it properly exercised that power here.

The district court answered no to both questions at the preliminary injunction stage, and the court below supported its ruling with a number of well-reasoned conclusions. Now, without even addressing all the underlying bases for the ruling, the government asks this Court to jump ahead of the Fifth Circuit and dissolve the injunction, irrevocably changing the status quo in a way that will effectively give the federal government all the relief it seeks.

This will create chaos in state provider networks, limit access to care for the poor and needy, and eviscerate informed consent for millions of people. The Court should reject the government’s request and maintain the status quo because the district court’s holdings were correct on all counts. I’m happy to take questions or speak to some of the questions that have already been asked by the Court.

Elizabeth Murrill

While she also makes a colorful point, I’d argue that a fundamental flaw is her omission of the options. That at no point is the law requiring any health care worker to get a vaccine. It’s forcing employers to mandate workers to do so, if they want to be receive funds from Eminem.

While it is clear that these hospitals depend on these programs for a huge chunk of their cash flow, and rejecting it, would basically put them out of business, I think alluding to the fact that the option is there, but that it’s just impractical, would be a better and more honest approach than acting like the option is non-existent, which seems more like the argument a politician would make, versus a highly competent lawyer who’s qualified to argue in front of SCOTUS.

So on to the decision. While the conservative majority was not ready to give OSHA such broad powers to regulate vaccinating and masking in all workplaces in the other case, Justices Roberts and Kavanaugh, joined the left-leaning justices to form a different majority who sided with the Biden administration, allowing HHS to regulate their industry in such a specific way. Because this was a much more narrow rule, affecting only health care workers that make a living off of government funding, it wasn’t the broad sweeping power OSHA tried to implement, and thus one they were willing to let lie.

In their dissent, Justices Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett accepted the majority’s reasoning to some extent, but simply believed that HHS had no written authority from congress to enact such a strong regulation. If congress had intended HHS to have such power, they’d have expressly written so in the law creating HHS.

Hear oral arguments or read about the case here at Oyez, or here at SCOTUSBlog.